Discussions with a Calvinist

Discussion with Teresa
Round 6

Morning Steve I am on my way to church.

I have given you an answer by giving you scriptures that indicate that man is fully accountable before God for every act even as all acts are foreordained . (Judas , Esau etc)

I have told you that I do not believe that anything happens that a man does not have control over to start with, so the question is moot.

You are asking me for an answer that does not exist , because it is a situation that does not exist.

If you ask me about something like an "accidental " incident (although I do not believe there is such a thing in Gods economy , only in mans) The levitical law had a specific remedy for such sins that were on the part of man unintentional . So obviously God holds man accountable even for acts he did not do intentionally.

So Steve man is ALWAYS accountable before God for every act both good and evil ( as indicated in the mat citation ) .

I do not know how else to answer your question , because the question has a false premies at it's core.

Man is ALWAYS accountable before God for all things

Have a Blessed Lords day

terry


BCBSR Reponse

Teresa,

You say that you cannot answer the question as to whether or not Calvinism teaches that God holds people accountable for things they have no control over, because you say that you "do not believe that anything happens that a man does not have control over"

I could understand your excuse, if indeed you believed that there was no area in life which is not under people's control. But that position is neither a Calvinistic position, nor do I think you actually believe it. For you had previously implied that you didn't believe that man was in control of everything by your rhetorical questions. "Did you chose your sex? Did your chose your parents? Did you choose your country or city of birth? Did you chose your intelligence?" I could come up with my own like are you in control of whether the sun rises or sets? But let's relate it to behavior. Are you in control of whether your neighbor sins? If indeed you are in control of everything then you must logically be in control of whether you neighbor sins. And he is in control of your behavior as well. If indeed as you say you "do not believe that anything happens that a man does not have control over" Is that right?

So which is it? Let's say you're on Jeopardy again and they ask you, "for $10,000, 'yes' or 'no', is man in control over everything that happens?" Now if you answer 'yes', you would not be a Calvinist. And your argument would not be defending Calvinism. But if you answer 'no', then you have no excuse for not answering with a 'yes' or 'no' the $25,000 question as to whether or not Calvinism teaches that God holds people accountable for things they have no control over.

So which is it?

Steve



The Berean Christian Bible Study Resources Jul 29,2015